Shapiro vs Carlson: Conservative Clash at TPUSA AmericaFest Over Fuentes, Tate
Shapiro and Carlson Clash at Turning Point USA Event

A major public rift erupted between two of America's most prominent conservative voices on Thursday night, December 19, 2025. The setting was the Turning Point USA AmericaFest conference, where commentator Ben Shapiro launched a pointed critique of fellow media figure Tucker Carlson for platforming controversial individuals.

The Core of the Controversy

During his speech, Ben Shapiro took direct aim at Tucker Carlson's editorial choices. He specifically criticized Carlson for hosting what he termed morally questionable guests on his show. Shapiro singled out white nationalist Nick Fuentes and divisive influencer Andrew Tate, who is an alleged sex trafficker. Shapiro framed these decisions as damaging to the conservative movement.

He invoked the memory of the late Charlie Kirk, the founder of Turning Point USA who was assassinated in September. Shapiro stated that Kirk would have viewed building up a figure like Nick Fuentes as "an act of moral imbecility." He extended his criticism to others, condemning right-wing podcaster Candace Owens for promoting conspiracy theories about Kirk's death and media personality Megyn Kelly for not condemning Owens's actions strongly enough.

Carlson's Sardonic Retort and Competing Visions

Speaking later at the event, Tucker Carlson responded with a characteristically sardonic tone. He made a jab at what he described as the culture of "denouncing and deplatforming" that he perceived in Shapiro's comments. Carlson suggested that the core of Charlie Kirk's mission was to foster genuine debate, not enforced conformity.

This clash is not merely personal but underscores a deeper ideological fight. Shapiro warned that the conservative movement Kirk helped build is "in serious danger" from what he called "charlatans," "frauds," and "grifters" who trade in conspiracy and grievance. Carlson's stance, by contrast, champions a broader, more contentious arena of discussion.

Wider Fallout and the Movement's Future

The fallout from the on-stage exchange continued online. Candace Owens responded to Shapiro's criticism by suggesting on social media platform X, in a post referencing Shapiro's Jewish faith, that Israel was involved in Charlie Kirk's killing. This further inflamed tensions within the conservative ecosystem.

The event also served as a memorial for Charlie Kirk. Tyler Robinson was arrested and charged in connection with the September shooting in Utah that killed Kirk. Erika Kirk, Charlie's widow and the new CEO of Turning Point USA, noted she had a "productive" meeting with Candace Owens amid the controversy.

This public division arrives at a critical political moment, as the Republican party navigates the first year of President Trump's second term and prepares for challenging midterm elections next year. The debate between Shapiro's call for ideological guardrails and Carlson's advocacy for open, unfiltered debate highlights the competing visions for the future of American conservatism.